It has been brought to my attention that the 4 stroke singles all must run together while the 2 stroke singles, (and the 2 stroke twins and triples), get broken down into seperate classes depending on their size.

Now..........let me say right up front that while the easiest thing to say would be....."come on man...wake up....it's a 4 stroke not a race bike", that may not be what is needed. Last years final in the unlimited single class proved that the 4 strokes have become more competitive and SOME of them are actually "somewhat fast".....(lol)......All that being said, I AM in favor of having as many people show up to the PS Drags as anybody out there, and I do realize the 4 strokes have became very popular for more than just feeding the cattle and hunting......(darn-it....there it goes again....did I say that out loud?..... ...) so in fairness to the stroke challenged people out there I thought I would throw this out to see if more of the people who are racing 4 strokes would show up if the classes were to be split up (say at somewhere around 500 or 525cc's)?

I HAVE NOTHING to do with the races, I have just had a few people voice their opinions and they seemed to want me to mention it and "go to bat" for them.....(I am still not to sure I am the best spokesperson for them.....but they did ask nicely.....lol). Charlie might want to pull this thread down or move it to some other section, (the trash bin section comes to mind right off the top of my head, but I couldn't find it......DANG-IT, sorry)

I am open for suggestions,

Currently there are the following for the 1 Cylinder Heads Up Classes

Limited 1 Cylinder 4 Stroke

Limited 1 Cylinder 2 & 4 Stroke (0-475cc)

Limited 1 Cylinder 2 & 4 Stroke (476+cc)

Unlimited 1 Cylinder 2 & 4 Stroke

Charlie, that structure looks good.

can i ask how you are going to check to see if everbody is telling the truth about what they got. i will be there with two raptors in drag chassis one is a 727 and one is a 7??. i am just wondering about how the race is going to be set up

thanks kirby smith

just my opinion i think yall should do a single cylinder stock frame class unlimited are heads up

Whats the limited part mean? I agree with whiteghost. There are plenty of 4strokes willing to show if there is a class for them.

"Limited" means no power adders, (no turbos.....nitro....nitrous....superchargers...etc).

It is not my intention to start a "which is better" discussion, just to try to get as many racers to the track as we can...because that helps everybody. That being said,I know there are people who would like to have a "stock frame class".....and an "aftermarket frame class".....and a "straight off the showroom floor class", but IMO that is what bracket racing is for, to learn the sport.

I was thinking of, (I'm sorry for saying this already Charlie), suggesting another single cylinder limited class be added and changing the wording on the two classes we already have.......here's my thoughts.

A 250cc two stroke and a 450cc four stroke "should" be close in performance, (at least that is what the AMA has been telling us for a few years now), and in my opinion a 500cc 2 stroke "should" be competitive with as big of a four stroke single as they can put together, (and still get it started that is.....lol), but to make a 520cc 4 stroke with a stock frame, run against a 540cc two stroke with a drag chassis is going to leave little hope for "one of the guys".

Here's my proposed Single cylinder class breakdown:

CLASS #1.....Limited Single
Any size 2 or 4 stroke single cylinder engine allowed, no power adders.

CLASS #2.....Limited 0-475cc two stroke single or open displacement four stroke single, no power adders.

CLASS #3.....Limited 0-270cc two stroke singles or 0-475cc four stroke single, no power adders.

I agree there should be a distinguishment between a drag chassis and an oem chassis.

We all know that an oem chassis bike will NOT be competitive against the chassis bikes.

Just my thoughts.

Here's my proposed Single cylinder class breakdown:

CLASS #1.....Limited Single
Any size 2 or 4 stroke single cylinder engine allowed, no power adders.

CLASS #2.....Limited 0-475cc two stroke single or open displacement four stroke single, no power adders.

CLASS #3.....Limited 0-270cc two stroke singles or 0-475cc four stroke single, no power adders.
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what class would a drag chassis raptor or ds run shooting go-go juice i'm gonna assume these proposed classes and charles classes will be combined to help with getting a fair turnout with the 4 strokes true were 4 strokes but we like to race as much as the guy beside us on a shee

Another vote for drag and stock chassis classes.

PS rules that incorporate/compliment the FSC rules would make it easier for folks building 4 strokes for both kinds of racing. Except for the duner class, all the other FSC rules could apply to flat drags.