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#780460 - 12/18/07 09:54 AM Shipment Advice for Sellers
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Guys, please dont ship regular parcel post through the USPS. It can and will occasionally take up to one month to receive the shipment. Secondly, they will not track nor look for your item until that one month time period has expired. I recommend spending that little extra for Priority Mail. They claim most shipments will take 2-3 days this way and the longest Ive waited was about a week. No one wants to wait a month to receive their parts regardless if they "need" them or not.

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#780461 - 12/18/07 10:04 AM Re: Shipment Advice for Sellers [Re: SandTrix]
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you could have said that 2 months ago....but thanks...
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#780793 - 12/18/07 07:53 PM Re: Shipment Advice for Sellers [Re: SandTrix]
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I agree,I have been waiting to long for parts to ship that have been bought off here lately,I think everyone selling parts on here should have to get a registered account with FEDEX or UPS to help the buyer keep better track of the shipment.
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#780817 - 12/18/07 08:04 PM Re: Shipment Advice for Sellers [Re: SandTrix]
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Damn wife just shipped that carb USPS because i'm out of town working right now frown
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#780870 - 12/18/07 08:39 PM Re: Shipment Advice for Sellers [Re: madracing]
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Unless the buyer is willing to pay for the postage upgrade, I ship the cheapest way possible. If you want it faster, you can pay for your impatience out of your pocket, not mine. If the buyer is getting a good deal on the part, asking for upgraded shipping at no additional cost is just greedy.
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#780886 - 12/18/07 08:57 PM Re: Shipment Advice for Sellers [Re: ubetrun]
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thats why i tell them how i am going to ship it, they have no choice... Take it or leave it. lol
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#780912 - 12/18/07 09:23 PM Re: Shipment Advice for Sellers [Re: Sub95]
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I think everyone would agree that regular UPS or something isnt a big deal. Those kinds of shipments are within a week. But if you use USPS and ship parcel it may very well be two weeks at best. Big difference IMO.

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#780913 - 12/18/07 09:24 PM Re: Shipment Advice for Sellers [Re: Sub95]
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I always ship Priority Mail.Postman told me depending on what it is and how the package is shaped it is sometimes cheaper to go priority.He compared the prices for me one day on a package and Priority was $3 cheaper with delivery Confirmation.

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#780922 - 12/18/07 09:32 PM Re: Shipment Advice for Sellers [Re: 99banshee]
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USPS also offers a Priority Mail "flat rate box". I have shipped some heavy stuff cross country for $8.95.
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#780925 - 12/18/07 09:33 PM Re: Shipment Advice for Sellers [Re: SandTrix]
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Originally Posted By: SandTrix
I think everyone would agree that regular UPS or something isnt a big deal. Those kinds of shipments are within a week. But if you use USPS and ship parcel it may very well be two weeks at best. Big difference IMO.


To you, an extra week is a "big difference". To me, it's 7 days.

Just because you want your stuff faster is not a reason to expect someone else to spend extra money. If it's the same price or cheaper to send it faster, that's a no brainer but if it costs extra and the buyer isn't willing to pay extra, it gets there when it gets there. To expect something for nothing is a sure way to end up disappointed, you'd be happier if you expected a month and were pleasantly surprised when it came in 2 weeks.
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#780940 - 12/18/07 09:45 PM Re: Shipment Advice for Sellers [Re: ubetrun]
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Ive never expected or got anything for nothing. Dont speculate such. Im just giving advice to some people that may not know. If you send something parcel it may very well take a month. When I buy something Im expecting it UPS type speed. 5 days from the coasts, 3-4 anywhere else. Not real fun waiting on a part you may need b/c its coming through the mail in a month. 5 days vs. one month.....big difference IMO. I would figure most anyone would pay the extra $3 bucks to get a part in a decent amount of time. I didnt post this to be a jerk to anyone, but merely to let others know something they might not have known.

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#780947 - 12/18/07 09:56 PM Re: Shipment Advice for Sellers [Re: SandTrix]
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If you aren't willing to pay extra, is it realistic to expect someone else to pay extra for your impatience? That's the crux of this whole discussion, what YOU expect vs. what someone else thinks is reasonable. Free shipping means that you don't get to dictate how it's shipped. If you want it fast and are willing to pay, a seller should ship it however you want.
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#780957 - 12/18/07 10:03 PM Re: Shipment Advice for Sellers [Re: ubetrun]
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How many times do you not pay for shipping?? I pay for shipping on nearly every item Ive bought. I guess you just really arent getting the jest of this post. Its purpose was to educate those that may not be aware of the USPS procedures. Could avoid some hard feelings amongst the buyer and seller. We all know shipping costs are getting fairly steep these days. USPS priority mail can be the cheapest way to ship an item or at least within 3-4 bucks. Cheap piece of mind for both parties. Of course every man can do as they wish.

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#780960 - 12/18/07 10:07 PM Re: Shipment Advice for Sellers [Re: SandTrix]
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If you are paying for shipping, I agree that you should be able to decide how it's shipped.
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#780967 - 12/18/07 10:20 PM Re: Shipment Advice for Sellers [Re: SandTrix]
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I completely agree with SandTrix, it's a cheap way to avoid the whole "where's my part", "why haven't I received the hub I need to race with this weekend" fiascos...

Best way to handle it, and protect yourself in the meantime, has already been stated: charge the buyer the extra couple of bucks upfront.

If you want to protect your reputation, tracking numbers are cheap insurance...

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#781084 - 12/19/07 08:06 AM Re: Shipment Advice for Sellers [Re: Lefty]
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That's why it's UPS for me. Free insurance to $100 and a tracking number everytime.

Although if someone says free shipping then when you buy your at their mercy cry

Good post Sandtrix, there are people who are not aware of the length of time it can take to get stuff through USPS parcel. Sellers should be willing to offer better shipping for more money, and buyers need to be aware of shipping arrangements up front.
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#781119 - 12/19/07 09:43 AM Re: Shipment Advice for Sellers [Re: Bubba297]
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I USE DHL. SAME BENEFITS AS UPS, BUT CHEAPER
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#781129 - 12/19/07 10:12 AM Re: Shipment Advice for Sellers [Re: GARY JR]
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I have been on the receiving end of waiting for 4+ weeks for something I paid $400 shipped on. I knew the guy from PS so I didn’t think he would rip me off but after you drop $400 and no one can tell you where a part is or where it was shipped to or even when. Finally the box showed up all beat up but the parts were still good. Any way for me I factor in the cost when selling stuff shipped and always use UPS. I like that with the tracking number you can look it up and see exactly were it is and or who signed for it.


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#781140 - 12/19/07 10:43 AM Re: Shipment Advice for Sellers [Re: GARY JR]
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I USE DHL. SAME BENEFITS AS UPS, BUT CHEAPER

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#781170 - 12/19/07 11:40 AM Re: Shipment Advice for Sellers [Re: jusa350]
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i usually use priorit mail. never parcel post... plus post office delivers on saturdays. their shipping week is 6 days,,, most stuff gets to people in 2-4 days, and i ALWAYS use deliver confirmation anymore.. some of the bigger stuff i will still ship ups they local office here is open till 6:30 the "flat rate box" is great also..

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#781304 - 12/19/07 02:54 PM Re: Shipment Advice for Sellers [Re: camatv]
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dunejumper, i was on the receiving end of a fiasco like that as well. USPS parcel post took right at 6 weeks from kansas to oklahoma. It was a one off steering stem w/o another to copy. Like you said, about the time we gave up it showed up looking like the box went through a tornado. No harm done other than some lost sleep!!

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#781420 - 12/19/07 05:47 PM Re: Shipment Advice for Sellers [Re: SandTrix]
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heres the reason ups can shove it in their azz.



ordered some nomex labcoats for work and this is how i got the box. i know a builder that has had motors dropped and broken into many pieces thru ups, yeah they will pay for it with the insurance but they seem to like to throw stuff off the trucks and the rollers in their warehouses.

i use usps, mom works at the post office they are a lot cheaper and priority is like 2 bucks more if that, 3 maybe and like other said 2-3 days usually.

those flat rate boxes you cant ship anything in them as long as it fits. be heavy as hell but as long as it fits flat rate it for 8.95.

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#781583 - 12/19/07 07:54 PM Re: Shipment Advice for Sellers [Re: SandTrix]
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Originally Posted By: SandTrix
I think everyone would agree that regular UPS or something isnt a big deal. Those kinds of shipments are within a week. But if you use USPS and ship parcel it may very well be two weeks at best. Big difference IMO.
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#781758 - 12/20/07 04:14 AM Re: Shipment Advice for Sellers [Re: JB PITCREW]
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man i once had a big headache due to usps. wickedcubs remembers. it took over a month for him to get a money order form me. i hated that so bad that i always advise buyers/sellers to STAY AWAY FROM USPS! i use fed-ex and ups. not a problem since.
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#782653 - 12/21/07 12:16 PM Re: Shipment Advice for Sellers [Re: MEXI-CHINO!!!]
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HERE THE REASON UPS SUCKS SO BAD THEY ARE STUPID MONEY HUNGER IDIOTS THAT HIRE FLY BY NIGHT SCABS TO DO AS MUCH WORK AS THEY CAN FOR $6.75 AN HOUR WITH THE CRAPPPIEST MEDICAL PLAN IN THE KNOWN WORLD AND HARDLY A PENSION,,,,,,,,,,ahhhh that felt good
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#782658 - 12/21/07 12:33 PM Re: Shipment Advice for Sellers [Re: srpd banshee]
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Ouch, that sucks. Well, I had a package sent parcel USPS on 12/11. Ill keep you guys posted on when it arrives.

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#782679 - 12/21/07 01:11 PM Re: Shipment Advice for Sellers [Re: SandTrix]
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Originally Posted By: SandTrix
.... had a package sent parcel USPS on 12/11. Ill keep you guys posted on when it arrives.



same same...nov 6...still in postal happyland...
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#782726 - 12/21/07 02:29 PM Re: Shipment Advice for Sellers [Re: A.T.]
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i know of someone who had a 10,000$ motor vanish......shipping through DHL

i also know someone who recieved there box back from a polisher with it opened and the most expensive stuff missing. and then they showed up on ebay a month later........shipped through the post office

moral of the story.......if its valuable to you put some shipping insurance on it that exceeds what its worth

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#782727 - 12/21/07 02:29 PM Re: Shipment Advice for Sellers [Re: A.T.]
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YEAH, UPS SUCKS. JUST GOT A +14 SWINGER TODAY. THE PIVOT END WAS HANGING HALF WAY OUT OF THE BOX. IT CAME FROM 1 STATE AWAY!!!
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#785073 - 12/25/07 10:00 PM Re: Shipment Advice for Sellers [Re: GARY JR]
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I must agree I think UPS (Brown Truck) really sucks. Im sorry if any of our fellow members work for them, and this is no way directed toward you. I shipped a banshee engine through them and recieved it back from my builder with a highly damaged case. The builder is well know and top knotch. I took all proper precautions,had purchased my proper insurance, and even sent in the pics to prove it. UPS tried to blame the builder for bad packing. 1 the builder is very very reputable. 2 the builder only builds 2 stroke engines(not boat motors or V8's) and he has done it for many years so he know how to pack them properly. 3 I paid for my insurance and this should be fixed. Im not trying to pull anything over I just want my stuff fixed. UPS told me to contact with the insurance company. I did and maid my insurance claim. I called the insurance company that UPS uses, abouy my case. They said it is not insurance that you buy when you ship(they called it some other B.S.). When the company answers the phone. The company that UPS told me to call. They answer the phone ________ Insurance. So how do they sell something other than insurance I dont know. The insurance company said they could not even talk to me. The insurance company said that the builder that shipped the motor back to me would have to do the talking(a bunch of B.S.). Why should the builder have to fight a battle for my belongings? So I just gave up because builders are way to busy to have to deal with that stuff. The builder said they would take care of it but thats not the point. Point is NEVER USE UPS OR BUY THEIR INSURANCE BECAUSE IT DOES NOT MATTER THEY WILL GIVE YOU THE RUN AROUND AND YOU WILL NEVER GET YOU BELONGINGS FIXED. UPS DEFINATLEY SCREWED ME. IN MY OPINION YOU SHOULD NEVER EVER USE UPS(BROWN TRUCK). Thanks for listening

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#802512 - 01/22/08 06:58 PM Re: Shipment Advice for Sellers [Re: BigBear]
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What company you guys think is better for shipping motors?FEDEX?

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#802524 - 01/22/08 07:08 PM Re: Shipment Advice for Sellers [Re: 06BaNsHeE]
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post office confused....I KNOW CALM DOWN...BUT ship it priority mail..cost a lil more but it will get there in a timely manner(3-9 days)plus do signature confirmation,tracking#,+ insurance..then they dont have a choice...i have always shipped my stuff this way..also because my town is very small and we dont have ups...
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#802598 - 01/22/08 07:49 PM Re: Shipment Advice for Sellers [Re: triple d's]
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And they will ship big packages like a whole entire motor and pipes?I used ups to ship my motor out to my builder and it was fine.Now im a little scared.I think Ill pay extra and put a 7,000$ insurance even tho its not worth 7000

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#802793 - 01/23/08 02:53 AM Re: Shipment Advice for Sellers [Re: 06BaNsHeE]
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Dont insure for more than it's worth. Another thing they'll do is not pay more than it's worth or even near what it's actually worth. I've seen people insure computers for $5000 and when it's broken they will give you whatever the price of a used comperable computer costs. All shipping companys pull this crap. I'm in the business I've seen it.

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#877605 - 06/06/08 08:48 PM Re: Shipment Advice for Sellers [Re: 06BaNsHeE]
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And they will ship big packages like a whole entire motor and pipes?I used ups to ship my motor out to my builder and it was fine.Now im a little scared.I think Ill pay extra and put a 7,000$ insurance even tho its not worth 7000


The post office will ship up to 70 lbs, and if it don't fit in your mail box and you aren't home, they take it back to the post office and let you come get it...the point here, we have a covered front porch, but UPS, DHL, and FedEx will leave the packages in front of the garage door, in the weather, for everyone to see, steal, whatever. And then I have to hear about it when I get home because my pregnant wife had to get out of the car and move boxes before she can pull in the garage. That and I know my mail man, the others seem like a new idiot each week.
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