Congratulation Jerry/Dillon Hinkie 3.70@85.04MPH

#311 0-475 Limited Class

Builder: Ryan Bichsel
Sponsor: Ricks Tinker Shop

This has been along time coming....

Congrats Dillon and Jerry!

Good job Guy's

Congratulation that is very fast!! with out nitrous right?

thanks charlie & rob ,and yes rick it has been along time coming, NO NOS frank297.all motor ,all 7mil of it. its been a good little motor.

Congrats Jerry and Dillon thats one fast bike

congrulations, you guys earned it

Yep...earned it for sure!
Very nice job guys!!

does this record still stand charlie

Sorry Mr. Hinkie

It was brought to my attention the dates in which your record was made, I made the following post on 04/25/08. Your runs were produced on the 17th between 7:22PM-7:36PM.

So is this a No.

I had to remove it because the guard beams were turned off and all elapsed times were not valid Wednesday Afternoon, Thursday and Friday.

o.k. no need in arguing about it. we still have the plaque on who took the 1st place that year, well unless the person wants that also.see you in april.no hard feallings.

Sorry to hear this hink. But all timeslips were more or less the same every pass. the computer will not throw up bogus time EVERY run regaurdless if someone forgot to turn on the gaurd beams and u had 3 slips with that i see here that was to close to be bogus. Great job anyway.

If you won the class the trophy is yours, the only problem we had was time slips when the guard beams were off, you guys are fast Mr. Hink no doubt.

There were actually many that had record slips on the 2 1/2 days the beams were off, only one brought me an additional backup time slip when the beams were back on.

how does the gaurd beams being off make u faster. i would like to know.

And who might that be????

Bubba,

The clock does not start until you roll out of the FULL STAGE BEAM(until the beam is remade) or you break the GUARD BEAM. The startline has 3 beams, PRE STAGE, FULL STAGE AND GUARD BEAM.

If you shallow stage (just bring on the Full Stage beam) and stop you are increasing your roll out and effectively have a running start at the race, you will get a better ET, but your furthur away from remaking the start beam so your reaction time would be slower if you leave at the exact same time as if you were staged deeper.

The bigger the roll out (larger diameter wheel) you have the more of a running start you can get. However you also have a guard beam which is 12-17 inches or so in front of the start beam, this will limit your rollout, (example bikes may have low body work behind the front wheels and this may keep the start beam broken preventing the timers from starting) the guard beam acts as a back up to the start beam. If you break the guard beam before you have remade or rolled out of the stage beam the timers will start.

Some bikes that have a low profile, chassis interference, body panel interference, etc. They will run a better time with no GUARD BEAM because the timers dont start until the FULL STage BEAM is remade after the bike is in motion.

ok i got ya. i understand that. wouldnt u have a real bad reaction time and a outstanding 60'. plus no one not knowing the gaurd beams were off would stage wouldnt be trying to get a running start at the lights. i know about gaurd beams i have been racing for years with gaurd beams. you would know a bogus time if u saw it but 3 passes everything was within a few hundredths and reaction times all was in the 550 range. I DONT SEE ANY BOGUS TIMES HERE. THIS IS MY OPINION.

All the information looked good, they could have been all legitimate times with the Full Stage Beam being remade within the 12-17 inches, however since the guard beams were turned off we will never know and it wouldnt be fair to the others who ran there times with them on.

The statement was made at the drivers meetings by Jeff Guillot for those who attended, the guard beams were off but whoever makes it to the 300' mark first still wins in classes.

did hink make any pass's when the gaurd beam was on?..if so what times did he run?

man we talking 2 years ago i doubt those other time slips are around.

I know even at pops track that bike has ran 70's. But it's ok all the records that year that were set are not right. So we will just have to do it again next year lol.

guys its o.k. , thanks for arguing and trying to make this lagit, but i understand what charlie is saying.i just find it halariuos it took 2 years to find this. me and dillon know what this motor is capible of and we MIGHT put the motor back on dirt.right now its running asphalt and doing a good job at it.anywho just use this as a learning process ,ensure all the timing system is working if your there to set records.so ask the track owner ever pass if its working.lol!!!

All I can say is WOW, I cant believe these time are not going to be honored, I know I worked for 2 years on my 554 for that record and to have it dissappear in a matter of moments is really disturbing, I cant bring that bike back it is gone.

yes i do feal your pain tim ,but lucky for me i still have it all.i just need to remember how to tune it for dirt.hum!!!!!TO LEAN OR NOT TO LEAN!!!!!

Along with this there need s to be a set of rules as to how each record can be obtained. ( is T&T ok?, or can you run a record and it was in your class should that record stand if it faster than the bigger classes above it too?) this stuff needs to be thought out and put out there so people no what they are dealing with. Those are just a few examples of why it needs to be posted prior to next event.

the real pain is I count on these things as advertising and my phone rings because of it. so I worry, its hard enough to get the whole package together and do it, then something out of my control yanks it away I say sift through the rounds and look at the consistency and let them stand if they ran normal numbers

I guess if i can find my slips I can have to 475 record then because in 09 we went 3.73 lol

http://www.planetsand.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/961401#Post961401

as my good friend from michigan says WHATEVER!!!!LOL .tim i dont think this will hurt your business at all.theres somethings that are NOT organized at the moment and it aint your business nor your engine building.

this does suck!..but without a gaurd beam the times can be wayyy off and wouldnt be fare to others that ran with it turned on...but it is sad that your records aint good because of someone elses screw up!..

The most interesting part of this problem is it took replacing a split monitor upstairs in the tower to fix the guard beam issue.

Hink you just going to gave to get the old mechanic to come out of retirement lol. Ryan will hook you up again.

and another bad thing about the timing issue , i let them borrow crimp connections to fix that junk in the tower. yes charlie smith that would be good if ol ryan could set the secret timing on the motor. i dont know where he had it set ,but it fo sho made that mo fo run.

I'm sure he will. Been talking to him here lately about some stuff.

Let's just sit back & let the power of intent take care of all our issues on the Planet

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I don't know about the junk in the tower......But the times should have never been put up as a record. I told everyone at the drivers meeting that the times wouldn't stand until we got the guard beams fixed. I am sorry for the trouble that we had. Thats why I spend the money to get Frank from Portatree to attend the race. That way if anythig comes up we have someone to fix the problem. I don't know any other track that does that.

But I do understand u being upset

the times shouldnt have been put up, I didnt challenge what days they were ran. Sorry for not catching them sooner, I know nitrobaby spent alot of effort/money trying to get us good equipment and even hired in professional help from portatree every year. It wasnt cheap and not fair to say its junk.

I agree I know it cost lots of money to do that. And I know jeff did the best he could.

I belive those time slips are accurate. All of the numbers on them make sense. I had some from when the beams were off and it had me at a very high reaction time (0.900 or so) and low 60 ft (1.2 or so) on a 421 in a stock chassis. It said I ran a 4.01; which the bike wasn't capable of doing then. The only problem that I could foresee is that if someone actually cut a perfect light, their reaction time wouldn't look as bogus; but the 60 ft still would. Is that not how the lights work?