That sounds pretty legit to me. I think no matter what you aren't going to make everybody happy, but it is a pretty solid base I think.

I kind of like it actually, and it takes a lot of pressure off the rookies who get all antsy racing a packard or a K&T.

I believe this format will bring some records down. Pretty exciting really. You can simply go to run numbers, concentrating on the times not the "race" at hand.

Kind of is a tnt, but the et actually counts. I am looking forward to seeing how it all turns out

My question?
You have 16 bikes in a "class"
you have to make 4 winning passes to win that class, what if you have 2 great passes, and 2 that are broke chain, and then the last you burn a piston.
the runner up and 3rd place makes cansecutive "sp" passes but does not quit run the better et.

You can claim the record, but how can you claim the win not knowing that your better pass was "against" the runner up.

If this is only a t-n-t day and a record setting event it is fine, but the only other awards you can give would be fastest ET per class.

Just my .02

Originally Posted By: Rick

My question?
You have 16 bikes in a "class"
you have to make 4 winning passes to win that class, what if you have 2 great passes, and 2 that are broke chain, and then the last you burn a piston.
the runner up and 3rd place makes cansecutive "sp" passes but does not quit run the better et.

You can claim the record, but how can you claim the win not knowing that your better pass was "against" the runner up.

If this is only a t-n-t day and a record setting event it is fine, but the only other awards you can give would be fastest ET per class.

Just my .02

That is a pretty big fault with this set-up. The other being that in the past you had to set a record during a "race". If you were to get put out 1st round, your ability to set a record E.T is very limited. Now, you have 20 hrs to knock someone (whom had earned the record the by the original method) off the record books.

Is this really "racing" ? It is quite common that the fastest bike doesn`t always win.

in this format if you had 16 bikes that registered for a specific class there would only be 2 winners (1st/2nd place)

they will claim victory based on there 2 best passes of e.t./reaction time within 3% of each other.

they will never be forced to race each other whereas 1 wins and the other gets put on the trailer due to a lesser e.t/reaction time, red light, breakdown.

if you pulled your bike off the trailer ran 2 times with awesome e.t's/reaction you dont have to run anymore to have the chance at winning your heads up class and even the bracket race.

you dont have to race 4 times because 16 were registered in your class.

you can only get the official record based on e.t. and can only win your class if you run the e.t. and cut a good light.

We have always allowed our records to be set in Time Trials and the class racing, so there is really no change here. Many of our current records have been set in the first 2 days of Time Trials.

in a laddered race you are running against a comparable bike and still have the chance at losing on a red light, bad reaction, breakdown or slow e.t.

if you can make 2 good passes in this format your chances of winning have increased ten fold, if so you are not going to lose from a breakdown, red light, or bad run.

for the bracket race you will not have someone sandbag you half way down the track or play staging games.

if you look at the dates on many of the offical record time slips, you will notice many were acomplished on time trial aka test and tune days.

if a crew made the effort of traveling across the country or overseas it would be hard tell them any time didnt count. if we are all there to witness the pass then it counts.

example: #69 Angel Morales, his 3.28 record breaking pass was made on the first day of Time Trials in April 2009. I couldnt see telling the puerto rican crew, sorry but that doesnt count,

example: Wild Thing made its 2.78 record pass on April 16th on a solo run backing it up on the 17th. We all know it was legitimate

It sounds great,the biggest complaint I heard in April was not enough Test n Tune.Not the case here and your times during TNT could win a class.There is never going to be a P.S. race to make everyone happy so lets try this one and see how it works out.

if this format works well will be the new format for say avi in november???

I just hope it works and we all have some fun, for the avi it will be normal style format.