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#987018 - 08/23/09 09:01 PM
Banshee Convertable Clutch
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Site Sponsor
Registered: 12/17/08
Posts: 49
Loc: nc
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Hello Planet Sand members i would like to introduce one of our latest products for the ATV market,the Convertable Clutch. the Convertable Clutch is a revolutionary breakthru in clutch design operating on the proven engine driven technology the convertable clutch is able to function as a slider,single stage lockup,multi stage lockup,or a combination of both at the same time. while in slider mode you still have the ability to engage or disengage the clutch using the lever. converting from one mode to the next is simply 5 minute adjustment. this clutch is developed from the same successfull platform we have been using in 650 hp motorcycles to set the records in the pro street 7.20 200 mph zone we know today. we at Hays Machine Works would like to take the time to let the members know that we are also interested in making anything you should need for your racing hobby,if you have a part you would like engineered designed and cnc machined feel free to contact me and i will see what i can do for you. feel free to visit our website at www.haysmachineworks.com and look around at some of the other products we currently manufacture. Tim Hays timhays@haysmachineworks.com
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#987038 - 08/24/09 12:11 AM
Re: Banshee Convertable Clutch
[Re: timhays]
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Site Sponsor
Registered: 12/17/08
Posts: 49
Loc: nc
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pricing on the Banshee Clutch is $1599 and comes complete with inner hub,Billet outer basket,Clutch hat assy. and Fibers.
comes with backing plate and mounting hardware,and all tuning accessories.
this is a 7 plate setup that will fit under stock modified clutch covers.
customer will supply gear and clutch steel plates
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#987041 - 08/24/09 12:31 AM
Re: Banshee Convertable Clutch
[Re: timhays]
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Site Sponsor
Registered: 12/17/08
Posts: 49
Loc: nc
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here is a video link of this clutch in a motorcycle application. this video shows the clutch in slider mode and still retaining the use of the clutch lever. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D66ZEmsqhcM
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#987071 - 08/24/09 08:03 AM
Re: Banshee Convertable Clutch
[Re: Calvin Pollet]
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Site Sponsor
Registered: 12/17/08
Posts: 49
Loc: nc
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#987207 - 08/24/09 07:12 PM
Re: Banshee Convertable Clutch
[Re: timhays]
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Site Sponsor
Registered: 12/17/08
Posts: 49
Loc: nc
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yes in slider mode the clutch lever can be released and the bike will not move until your engine rpm's reach the stall(adjustable from 2000rpm-8500rpm) at which a point you can use the clutch lever to engage or disengage the clutch.
a simple 5 minute conversion allows the clutch to function solely off the clutch lever to engage and disengage the clutch similiar to what you currently are using but with the benefit driving the clutch with the engine rpm instead of transmission rpm.
there are numerous ways to use this clutch and this info is part of our standard support and tuning parameters that we provide to our customers.
Edited by timhays (08/24/09 07:13 PM)
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#987267 - 08/24/09 09:57 PM
Re: Banshee Convertable Clutch
[Re: banshee332]
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Site Sponsor
Registered: 12/17/08
Posts: 49
Loc: nc
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yes you could use it that way,there are 20-30 different combinations this clutch could be used in.the sheer fact that you have the adjustability to try various tuneups means you will be able to set the clutch up to best suit your individual combinations needs,and the needs of your environment on an everchanging basis.
imagine having several clutchs in one revolutionary package,yes you can even remove the hat assy and bolt on your transmission driven lockup as well if you should ever have that desire.
Edited by timhays (08/24/09 10:06 PM)
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#987339 - 08/25/09 01:24 PM
Re: Banshee Convertable Clutch
[Re: C.Smith]
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Site Sponsor
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Posts: 49
Loc: nc
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#987376 - 08/25/09 05:22 PM
Re: Banshee Convertable Clutch
[Re: Bubba-licious]
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Site Sponsor
Registered: 12/17/08
Posts: 49
Loc: nc
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What keeps the clutches from burning up. thats a very interesting question,for the last 20 years it has been common thought that you need a lot of force on the clutch pack to prevent burning up clutch plates. lately the trend is to remove force on the clutch pack which has shown great improvements in performance. what is interesting is the fact we are using this clutch on 600hp engines with no problems with clutch plates,and i have spoken to several banshee owners with stock or single stage clutches who have to replace there clutch pack every race. i have no reason to believe why you would have issues with our clutch in your application as all of our other 10 applications with the same technology have been successful. we currently offer this clutch for the gsxr600-750,gsxr1000,honda blackbird,hayabusa,zx9,zx10,zx12,87-92 gsxr1100,and soon to be released zx14,and of course the banshee we are also looking into the Raptor clutch as well.
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#987427 - 08/25/09 08:34 PM
Re: Banshee Convertable Clutch
[Re: Bubba-licious]
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Site Sponsor
Registered: 12/17/08
Posts: 49
Loc: nc
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anyone who would like more info on this clutch feel free to contact me by phone and i will provide any info you may need. 704 713 9274 thank you tim
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#987429 - 08/25/09 08:47 PM
Re: Banshee Convertable Clutch
[Re: Anton85]
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Site Sponsor
Registered: 12/17/08
Posts: 49
Loc: nc
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so with this clutch setup you can shift at wide open throttle and not let off like a cut trans? yes you can shift at full throttle using a air shifter with a stock or backcut tranny,the only way to shift manually at wide open throttle as with any clutch you would need auto cut tranny where the gears override each other.
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#988575 - 08/31/09 05:42 PM
Re: Banshee Convertable Clutch
[Re: Siquiatria]
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Registered: 12/17/08
Posts: 49
Loc: nc
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Hi Tim !! Seems like a good and time cosuming product development. Could you give us some 60 foot times with differents combinations? Thanks Noel SDM traditionally in our applications we have seen considerable improvement in 60 foot and consistency in ET MPH using our clutch versus the multi stage lockups on the market. considering the majority of the racers are currently using single stage lockups i assume the benefits to be greater in your application. i have seen 1.14 60 foots in certain applications although not everyone has a 1.14 60 foot chassis,motor or tuning ability so results do vary with your abilities.
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#988576 - 08/31/09 05:43 PM
Re: Banshee Convertable Clutch
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Registered: 12/17/08
Posts: 49
Loc: nc
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If the rain would let up I will make it to the track but right now mother nature is not liking this clutch to much I guess. yes the weather has been rough lately.
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#988702 - 09/01/09 01:14 AM
Re: Banshee Convertable Clutch
[Re: frank]
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Site Sponsor
Registered: 12/17/08
Posts: 49
Loc: nc
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very true statement, every little bit helps but sometimes the track is the determining factor that can throw everything else off and make setup vary from 1 week to next and 1 track from the other, to me it takes , at least me a lot of time and trial and error to get it right with what i got and i think any thing along these lines of clutch can be a big help, i have found there no miracle cure for what all ails a bike just more of a miracle when it all comes together and gets the best results at 1 time, i think the clutching area with something along this type of product can be a big benefit on improving bike performance and taking some pressure off other parts, we can appreciate you coming over and sharing a new product with us to help us along, thanks your very welcome,i am interested in working with ATV owners on assisting with any advancement in technology that will aid to the lowering of existing records or providing solutions to existing problems. anyone who is interested i am available trackside as well to assist in any way needed. i have several industries that i am developing products for at any given time which keeps me very busy but i do not mind spending whatever time neccessary working with those who appreciate it. thank you tim
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#988715 - 09/01/09 06:28 AM
Re: Banshee Convertable Clutch
[Re: timhays]
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Registered: 12/05/03
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this sport has stepped to next level with the introduction of newer cylinders and more power, that new found power has taken its toll on parts and most has been worked out, these motors have the best of parts that have been developed to take the abuse and hold up, now to me the last area has been the tranny and clutch, with this type of setup maybe it can take the or soften the sudden hammerring trans take thru clutch, with the single stage system, it can be softened up on launch but now you got to figure out how to make it hold at other end and the multi may be the answer, i`m not at that power level but know several that are and listen to their results working with what they have, with something like this or along these lines, i look for better et`s, 60 and longer life out of parts
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#989083 - 09/02/09 04:20 PM
Re: Banshee Convertable Clutch
[Re: timhays]
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Candyman Racing

Registered: 12/16/07
Posts: 1814
Loc: NC
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Hello Planet Sand members i would like to introduce one of our latest products for the ATV market,the Convertable Clutch. the Convertable Clutch is a revolutionary breakthru in clutch design operating on the proven engine driven technology the convertable clutch is able to function as a slider,single stage lockup,multi stage lockup,or a combination of both at the same time. while in slider mode you still have the ability to engage or disengage the clutch using the lever. converting from one mode to the next is simply 5 minute adjustment. this clutch is developed from the same successfull platform we have been using in 650 hp motorcycles to set the records in the pro street 7.20 200 mph zone we know today. we at Hays Machine Works would like to take the time to let the members know that we are also interested in making anything you should need for your racing hobby,if you have a part you would like engineered designed and cnc machined feel free to contact me and i will see what i can do for you. feel free to visit our website at www.haysmachineworks.com and look around at some of the other products we currently manufacture. Tim Hays timhays@haysmachineworks.com SO IS THIS PRODUCT GAURNTEED TO PICK UP ET'S, 60FOOT'S, ETC?
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#989143 - 09/02/09 08:12 PM
Re: Banshee Convertable Clutch
[Re: Drew.]
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Site Sponsor
Registered: 12/17/08
Posts: 49
Loc: nc
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Hi Candyman,i seen you at the last race in Rockingham and i believe i spoke to you about this clutch.
i am very confident this clutch will provide you with better clutch tuning ability and performance than you currently have now or i wouldnt have invested my time and money in this market.
all of our products are guarranteed to perform as advertised and we will stand behind our stuff 150 percent.
i will be happy to work with you to get the clutch installed and set up for you on your chassis if you are interested.
feel free to contact me to place your order.
thank you tim
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#989176 - 09/02/09 09:50 PM
Re: Banshee Convertable Clutch
[Re: timhays]
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Candyman Racing

Registered: 12/16/07
Posts: 1814
Loc: NC
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Hi Candyman,i seen you at the last race in Rockingham and i believe i spoke to you about this clutch.
i am very confident this clutch will provide you with better clutch tuning ability and performance than you currently have now or i wouldnt have invested my time and money in this market.
all of our products are guarranteed to perform as advertised and we will stand behind our stuff 150 percent.
i will be happy to work with you to get the clutch installed and set up for you on your chassis if you are interested.
feel free to contact me to place your order.
thank you tim I'll let ya know something?
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#990465 - 09/10/09 08:56 PM
Re: Banshee Convertable Clutch
[Re: timhays]
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Site Sponsor
Registered: 12/17/08
Posts: 49
Loc: nc
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clutch has been working very well so far.
we have a limited supply of units left in stock ready for shipping.
for those who have purchased our clutch we thank you for your business.
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#1003548 - 11/11/09 01:53 AM
Re: Banshee Convertable Clutch
[Re: hink]
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Site Sponsor
Registered: 12/17/08
Posts: 49
Loc: nc
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sorry i have been away from the boards as we have been very busy in the shop.
we have very good news and will be telling all very soon,as of now all i can say is we have been achieving great results so far and have even improved upon our initial clutch design and are now offering multiple versions of the clutch.
Edited by timhays (11/11/09 01:54 AM) Edit Reason: spelling
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#1008255 - 12/03/09 09:18 PM
Re: Banshee Convertable Clutch
[Re: timhays]
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Site Sponsor
Registered: 12/17/08
Posts: 49
Loc: nc
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i would like to introduce the next generation of Convertable Clutch kits for the Yamaha Banshee. The T3 Convertable clutch kit has been developed specifically for the Banshee application. those of you who doubted a 3 arm clutch could effectively provide the lockup you needed should now be assured we have a 6 arm model for your needs. the T3 Triple Stage lockup can be run in 2,3,4,6 lockup arm configuration to match all popular combinations available. in addition to converting to a slider to a 3 stage lockup you can now run the clutch in Multi stage slider configuration as well as 3 seperate stages of lockup arm tuning. the lockup arms can be used in pairs to provide resistance values of your desire. product has been tested and has shown more tuning variables than our original convertable clutch offering. T3 Convertable Clutch kits for the 7 plate are in stock and available for immediate shipping. 10 plate versions in development. thank you Tim Hays www.haysmachineworks.com
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#1008875 - 12/06/09 09:25 PM
Re: Banshee Convertable Clutch
[Re: Bubba-licious]
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Site Sponsor
Registered: 12/17/08
Posts: 49
Loc: nc
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i agree with you,for some reason everyone wants to keep this clutch a secret,we have had that problem in other markets as well until the saturation level recieved a certain point that it couldnt be kept a secret.
any Banshee owner who can come to the charlotte region i will be happy to bring a clutch to the track and install for you to try.
after you are done testing i will give you the option to purchase the clutch or i will remove it and take it back with me.
all i ask in return is your feedback to the community on the operation of our product.
i can be reached at timhays@carolina.rr.com
thank you
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#1008897 - 12/07/09 12:45 AM
Re: Banshee Convertable Clutch
[Re: timhays]
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Site Sponsor
Registered: 12/17/08
Posts: 49
Loc: nc
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if you would like to provide airfare i would be willing to come to you for a test session at the track as well.
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#1008981 - 12/07/09 12:45 PM
Re: Banshee Convertable Clutch
[Re: Bubba-licious]
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Registered: 04/19/05
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Loc: Metro-Detroit
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[quote=timhays]if you would like to provide airfare i would be willing to come to you for a test session at the track as well.
It doesn't get no better than that. I couldn't agree more. Find another sponsor in the industry that will let you try before you buy and help you at the track to tune it. I bet there are several builders that would like to try this and tune it BEFORE Gilbert.... Impressive to say the least.
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#1010593 - 12/16/09 11:39 AM
Re: Banshee Convertable Clutch
[Re: timhays]
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Registered: 12/17/08
Posts: 49
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#1010596 - 12/16/09 11:40 AM
Re: Banshee Convertable Clutch
[Re: timhays]
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Site Sponsor
Registered: 12/17/08
Posts: 49
Loc: nc
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the Bottom photo is our Hayabusa Product,the top 2 are the Banshee application.
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#1010799 - 12/17/09 08:50 AM
Re: Banshee Convertable Clutch
[Re: TitanRacing]
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Registered: 04/20/05
Posts: 1685
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#1010956 - 12/17/09 08:25 PM
Re: Banshee Convertable Clutch
[Re: Rick]
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Site Sponsor
Registered: 12/17/08
Posts: 49
Loc: nc
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7 plate setups in stock ready for delivery.
thank you guys for the compliments.
tim
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#1011358 - 12/19/09 10:30 PM
Re: Banshee Convertable Clutch
[Re: ]
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Site Sponsor
Registered: 12/17/08
Posts: 49
Loc: nc
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At this time we cannot use existing baskets from other manufactures.
this kit was designed from the ground up and our kits will not mix and match with other baskets on the market.
you can however use our basket with a conventional lockup if you ever wanted to but our clutch assy will not work with existing baskets on the market.
our system is designed to work together as a kit.
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#1011359 - 12/19/09 10:31 PM
Re: Banshee Convertable Clutch
[Re: mr.billet]
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Site Sponsor
Registered: 12/17/08
Posts: 49
Loc: nc
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10 plate kits are going to be the same cost as a 7 plate.
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#1011360 - 12/19/09 10:36 PM
Re: Banshee Convertable Clutch
[Re: TitanRacing]
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Site Sponsor
Registered: 12/17/08
Posts: 49
Loc: nc
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we can supply any neccessary developments to handle any power you can make,however i think many will be suprised how differently this clutch works in comparison of what you are used to.
before we start manufacturing too many diffent designs and configurations i would like you guys to see how the 7 plate works in comparison to the transmission driven clutch kits you are now using.
at that time if you have additional needs above and beyond the 7 plate we can address those specifically to get you what you need.
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#1011362 - 12/19/09 10:48 PM
Re: Banshee Convertable Clutch
[Re: timhays]
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Site Sponsor
Registered: 12/17/08
Posts: 49
Loc: nc
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Convertable Clutch info click this link turn on speakers for more info on the convertable clutch system
Edited by timhays (12/19/09 10:50 PM)
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#1011425 - 12/20/09 11:21 AM
Re: Banshee Convertable Clutch
[Re: mr.billet]
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Site Sponsor
Registered: 12/17/08
Posts: 49
Loc: nc
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we supply everything you need,you will bolt on your gearset of choice,and use your existing oem modified cover and enjoy the ride.
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#1011517 - 12/20/09 08:35 PM
Re: Banshee Convertable Clutch
[Re: mr.billet]
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Site Sponsor
Registered: 12/17/08
Posts: 49
Loc: nc
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ill tell you what i will do.
if you order the clutch this week i will ship to your door for $1500 even.
call with your payment information or paypal to timhays@carolina.rr.com
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#1011519 - 12/20/09 08:39 PM
Re: Banshee Convertable Clutch
[Re: mr.billet]
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#1017273 - 01/15/10 04:21 PM
Re: Banshee Convertable Clutch
[Re: timhays]
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Site Sponsor
Registered: 12/17/08
Posts: 49
Loc: nc
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for the next 2 weeks we will be offering the convertable clutch for a special price of $999.99
this offer will expire feb 1st 2010
best regards
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#1021094 - 01/31/10 03:36 PM
Re: Banshee Convertable Clutch
[Re: timhays]
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Site Sponsor
Registered: 12/17/08
Posts: 49
Loc: nc
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I would like to thank all of those who took advantage of this special season opening special on our convertable clutch kit.
thank you for the business and tech support is available for any assistance you may need.
sale is officially over.
tim
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#1026711 - 02/24/10 08:48 PM
Re: Banshee Convertable Clutch
[Re: timhays]
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Site Sponsor
Registered: 12/17/08
Posts: 49
Loc: nc
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we have a new style Billet Pusher shaft available,this style pusher shaft fixes the problem of the ball inside the transmission shaft welding itself to the setscrew.
we solved this problem by manufacturing a set screw with a roller ball in the end of the screw to mate to the ball in the shaft.
another problem we solved was the inconvenient manner of adjusting and tightening the screw and lock nut,on previous models you needed to loosen a jam nut while having a second wrench attached to the pusher shaft,and using a third tool to adjust the set screw,our system utilizes 2 set screws one of which is used to adjust the required play and the other is used to secure the setscrew form moving,the entire proccess uses 2 tools a 13mm socket and a allen wrench to loosen adjust and retighten.
comes with thrust bearing assy on the pressure plate mating surface
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#1026712 - 02/24/10 08:50 PM
Re: Banshee Convertable Clutch
[Re: timhays]
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#1026798 - 02/25/10 10:24 AM
Re: Banshee Convertable Clutch
[Re: n2otoofast4u]
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Site Sponsor
Registered: 12/17/08
Posts: 49
Loc: nc
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$39.99 plus $10 shipping.
in stock ready to ship can order from website at haysmachineworks.com or you can paypal the funds to timhays@carolina.rr.com
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#1027073 - 02/26/10 11:13 AM
Re: Banshee Convertable Clutch
[Re: methyman]
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Site Sponsor
Registered: 12/17/08
Posts: 49
Loc: nc
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they should work no problem on your application,if you have an application that wont fit we will make one for you that will fit.
thank you for your business.
tim hays
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#1031456 - 03/17/10 07:21 PM
Re: Banshee Convertable Clutch
[Re: tnt912]
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Site Sponsor
Registered: 12/17/08
Posts: 49
Loc: nc
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Thank you very much for your compliments
tim
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#1031518 - 03/17/10 10:59 PM
Re: Banshee Convertable Clutch
[Re: PegLegPerformance]
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Registered: 12/17/08
Posts: 49
Loc: nc
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Mainly our focus has bee dragracing applications where elapsed time is the primary focus,and where our clutch excells in performance.
hillclimbing is more focused on making it to the top of the hill,i dont know if you are timed to the top just if you can make it to the finish,maybe you can elaborate.
the strength of our clutch is in the smoothness of engagement and the minimizing of tire slippage,this could be an advantage in hillclimbing as by eliminating excessive tire spin which tends to slow your inertia to a point your chassis hooks and flips over
this would be a scenario we need to try it and see how it works.
we are willing,please contact us if you are.
tim
Edited by timhays (03/17/10 11:00 PM)
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#1044625 - 05/27/10 01:27 AM
Re: Banshee Convertable Clutch
[Re: timhays]
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Site Sponsor
Registered: 12/17/08
Posts: 49
Loc: nc
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10 plate Convertable Clutch kits are now in stock
we have several dealers in place to assist in the purchasing and installation and tuning of your clutch should you need assistance.
please pm me your name and number and i will forward to the closest dealer in your area.
thank you tim
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#1046569 - 06/09/10 01:22 AM
Re: Banshee Convertable Clutch
[Re: timhays]
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#1083206 - 04/11/11 07:30 PM
Re: Banshee Convertable Clutch
[Re: Raineysmotorsports]
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how will this set up work in a trip couger on 1/8 mile drag racing have you had any problem with parts braking has any one used them on big hp banshees
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