We have always promoted the following rules in our heads up classes:

Unlimited = No Power Adder Rules

Limited Class = No Nitrous, No Turbos, No Fuel Additives, No Superchargers - Gas/Methanol Only

Now there are many people running the NEW M5 Methanol that has been oxygenated and VP claims a 5% increase in power.

There are so many other fuel blends available right out of the can for Gas or Methanol.

We have stated for the Limited Classes GAS or METHANOL Only, which means nothing more including any kind of out of the can blends of enhancers.


Please tell me what you know about fuels that are available that would break our no additives rule in Limited Classes?

If its out of the can ... run it.... if the racer is mixing in an additive ... violation.

The 5% increase that say ... Q16 claims, will only help to bridge the gap for the guys that run gas compared to the 10% gain alcohol usually gives over gas even though both run in the same class.

I cant imagine either oxygenated fuel be it M5 or Q16 would yield much if any of a result on the track

I personally dont know of any "out of the can" fuel blends that would break the limited rules ...

if im correct m3 and m5 from vp have a 3% or 5% nitro mix in it so those two should not be allowed in the limited classes. now the vp gas fuel like q16, mrxo1 ,and any of the mr9,10,11 should be allowed cuz all the add is more oxygn to bridge the gap between gas and alky imo .

I agree with forcefed....if its in the can sealed...then it should be legal in the class. Similar action happened in VA...they said the class is only PUMP GAS which most think 87, 89, 93 octane...well we can get CAM2 out of the pump here but they tried protesting it...rules say PUMP GAS...

Originally Posted By: renoyfzfan

if im correct m3 and m5 from vp have a 3% or 5% nitro mix in it so those two should not be allowed in the limited classes. now the vp gas fuel like q16, mrxo1 ,and any of the mr9,10,11 should be allowed cuz all the add is more oxygn to bridge the gap between gas and alky imo .

Actually it is a sister of nitro methane ... but either way, nitro is basically just oxygen - based on your gas comments, why in the world would Alky (which is also oxygen bearing) be excluded if you are fine with adding oxygen to gas ?

m1 alky will pass a water test m3, m5 wont so it shouldnt be allowed in with alky and gas classes.imo

i get nick too drink corn liquor and then in my fuel tanks...is this legal?


im with forcefed also...cant win build a stronger motor..m1/m3/m5/etc what ever its still in the alky family and shouldnt be disqualified if so everyone will be legal except a certain few cheaters....if they are legal every one has the chance too use them.....almost everyone can spot nitro turbos and nitrous but the other grades of alky are not easily detected nor do they make near the diference the nitro/etc does....

I dont think amnyone runs M-5 in 2 strokes, alot of us have tried it and it sucks, i believe it was designed for a four stroke? There has been talk of nitro this notro that in many tanks it just needs to be tested more. But IMO M-3 doesn't make enough of if any gain on the track to justify running it so let em have it if they want. Just random test fules more often for real nitro adders that actually make a difference.

I agree about the need for real fuel testing, threatening to test fuel and then only sniffing a gas tank is not enough to discourage cheaters.

100% alky has the same specific gravity everywhere and race gas numbers are published, all a person has to do is say what brand of fuel they are running and the numbers have to match. There are some special mixes that fool a hydrometer but in general, a $200 hydrometer is enough to keep 99.9% of the racers honest.

I believe charlie had a hydrometer at AVI, i saw them checking a couple of suspects,